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		<title>By: Bridget Laird</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bridget Laird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 00:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laura,
3 years ago David Hunter visited WINGS and helped us develop our Theory of Change and 5 year plan. I sat there and became very nervous thinking &quot;How are we going to do all of this??? We don&#039;t have the time!!&quot; Now, we are able to manage our performance on a daily basis and the best part is that it is easy. I now go to sleep easier knowing we are dong the best job possible for our kids. I hope all non-profits can get the tools to do and feel the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laura,<br />
3 years ago David Hunter visited WINGS and helped us develop our Theory of Change and 5 year plan. I sat there and became very nervous thinking &#8220;How are we going to do all of this??? We don&#8217;t have the time!!&#8221; Now, we are able to manage our performance on a daily basis and the best part is that it is easy. I now go to sleep easier knowing we are dong the best job possible for our kids. I hope all non-profits can get the tools to do and feel the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Nonprofit Local Admin</title>
		<link>http://www.thirdsectorconnector.com/blog/2009/10/18/do-you-know-how-to-fix-the-nonprofit-sector/comment-page-1/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>Nonprofit Local Admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 00:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bridget - I&#039;m with you!  What can you and I both do to make sure that ALL nonprofits have the same tools?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bridget &#8211; I&#8217;m with you!  What can you and I both do to make sure that ALL nonprofits have the same tools?</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Deaton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura Deaton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ingvild - Thanks again for your reply. We&#039;ve found ourselves at a good place for common ground.  We certainly didn&#039;t start there, but I much prefer being in a place where we&#039;re talking about helping all organizations become high performing and providing them with the tools to do so.  Had David Hunter started his article from that premise instead of disparaging the sector and advocating the withdrawal of funds from struggling nonprofits, we&#039;d likely have gotten there much more quickly, but we also wouldn&#039;t have had such an important dialogue. Thanks for engaging!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ingvild &#8211; Thanks again for your reply. We&#8217;ve found ourselves at a good place for common ground.  We certainly didn&#8217;t start there, but I much prefer being in a place where we&#8217;re talking about helping all organizations become high performing and providing them with the tools to do so.  Had David Hunter started his article from that premise instead of disparaging the sector and advocating the withdrawal of funds from struggling nonprofits, we&#8217;d likely have gotten there much more quickly, but we also wouldn&#8217;t have had such an important dialogue. Thanks for engaging!</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Deaton</title>
		<link>http://www.thirdsectorconnector.com/blog/2009/10/18/do-you-know-how-to-fix-the-nonprofit-sector/comment-page-1/#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura Deaton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Ingvild - Our recent tweets lead me to believe that we are closer than we initially thought.  I absolutely agree that it is important to fund and support both high performing organizations and the organizations that are on their way. I also believe that there are many situations where it is important to fund and support organizations that aren&#039;t even on their way yet.  

Why? Many small, local nonprofits (and likely some larger ones, too) haven&#039;t been given the toolkit yet to help them become high-performing. Does that mean that they aren&#039;t providing value or making an impact? No. It simply means that we do not yet have proof that they are. 

I&#039;m not talking about the extreme example above of a poorly operated program whose leaders refuse to improve their quality. I&#039;m talking about the amazing community-based nonprofits who really are making a difference and who don&#039;t have, and may never have, the capacity to measure with the rigor that others would like to see. 

In your example with teen mothers, you ask how we can justify having them receive services from an ineffective program when they could have received services from one that works.  My answer is that &quot;we can&#039;t&quot; justify it, but also that this simply isn&#039;t the reality in most communities.  So, I&#039;m also talking about the nonprofits who have a terrific mission that could meet a great need in communities where there are no other resources, and who aren&#039;t ever going to be high performing or high impact without the support to become so.  

What makes me uncomfortable about most folks in the &quot;effective social investment&quot; sector is the top-down &quot;stick-instead-of-a-carrot&quot; approach.  Instead of withholding funds from nonprofits who aren&#039;t high performing or who can&#039;t demonstrate high impact, why not instead put funding toward making them so?

Why not fund leadership training for organizations that aren&#039;t high performing?
Why not provide executive development and coaching for leaders that don&#039;t understand or practice outcomes-based measurement?
Why not fund local and regional support centers that will create opportunities for networking and connections that will allow high-performing organizations to mentor those that aren&#039;t?

None of these involve a &quot;stick.&quot; None of these involve &quot;withholding funds.&quot; None of these adopt the &quot;only-whoever-measures-best-wins&quot; approach.  In fact, they all involve lifting the whole sector up at the same time. That&#039;s a win/win approach to philanthropy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Ingvild &#8211; Our recent tweets lead me to believe that we are closer than we initially thought.  I absolutely agree that it is important to fund and support both high performing organizations and the organizations that are on their way. I also believe that there are many situations where it is important to fund and support organizations that aren&#8217;t even on their way yet.  </p>
<p>Why? Many small, local nonprofits (and likely some larger ones, too) haven&#8217;t been given the toolkit yet to help them become high-performing. Does that mean that they aren&#8217;t providing value or making an impact? No. It simply means that we do not yet have proof that they are. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not talking about the extreme example above of a poorly operated program whose leaders refuse to improve their quality. I&#8217;m talking about the amazing community-based nonprofits who really are making a difference and who don&#8217;t have, and may never have, the capacity to measure with the rigor that others would like to see. </p>
<p>In your example with teen mothers, you ask how we can justify having them receive services from an ineffective program when they could have received services from one that works.  My answer is that &#8220;we can&#8217;t&#8221; justify it, but also that this simply isn&#8217;t the reality in most communities.  So, I&#8217;m also talking about the nonprofits who have a terrific mission that could meet a great need in communities where there are no other resources, and who aren&#8217;t ever going to be high performing or high impact without the support to become so.  </p>
<p>What makes me uncomfortable about most folks in the &#8220;effective social investment&#8221; sector is the top-down &#8220;stick-instead-of-a-carrot&#8221; approach.  Instead of withholding funds from nonprofits who aren&#8217;t high performing or who can&#8217;t demonstrate high impact, why not instead put funding toward making them so?</p>
<p>Why not fund leadership training for organizations that aren&#8217;t high performing?<br />
Why not provide executive development and coaching for leaders that don&#8217;t understand or practice outcomes-based measurement?<br />
Why not fund local and regional support centers that will create opportunities for networking and connections that will allow high-performing organizations to mentor those that aren&#8217;t?</p>
<p>None of these involve a &#8220;stick.&#8221; None of these involve &#8220;withholding funds.&#8221; None of these adopt the &#8220;only-whoever-measures-best-wins&#8221; approach.  In fact, they all involve lifting the whole sector up at the same time. That&#8217;s a win/win approach to philanthropy.</p>
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		<title>By: Ingvild Bjornvold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ingvild Bjornvold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right, Laura, we are closer than it initally appeared. I believe very strongly that we must help organizations BECOME high performing. In fact, that is what I have been doing for several years, and it is what David Hunter does every day. 

Funding to build performance management capacity should be more easily available - and if social investors choose to fund organizations to become high performing, that would be great progress. That is the kind of change we need from the funder/donor community.

My point is, though, that ALL organizations - even small ones - can manage performance at some level, and if they do not make progress with funding and resources to build performance management capacity, well, then it&#039;s time to direct the money to organizations that will make good use of it. 

I&#039;ve worked in, and now with, nonprofits for many years, and I know very well that not all organizations are willing to change - we need to support change where there is drive to make it happen. There is so much at stake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, Laura, we are closer than it initally appeared. I believe very strongly that we must help organizations BECOME high performing. In fact, that is what I have been doing for several years, and it is what David Hunter does every day. </p>
<p>Funding to build performance management capacity should be more easily available &#8211; and if social investors choose to fund organizations to become high performing, that would be great progress. That is the kind of change we need from the funder/donor community.</p>
<p>My point is, though, that ALL organizations &#8211; even small ones &#8211; can manage performance at some level, and if they do not make progress with funding and resources to build performance management capacity, well, then it&#8217;s time to direct the money to organizations that will make good use of it. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve worked in, and now with, nonprofits for many years, and I know very well that not all organizations are willing to change &#8211; we need to support change where there is drive to make it happen. There is so much at stake.</p>
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		<title>By: Ingvild Bjornvold</title>
		<link>http://www.thirdsectorconnector.com/blog/2009/10/18/do-you-know-how-to-fix-the-nonprofit-sector/comment-page-1/#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>Ingvild Bjornvold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 01:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We’ve had this conversation, Laura, in the comment section of several other blogs (Wings for Kids, Tactical Philanthropy, Hildy Gottlieb’s blog), but I thought I’d also respond directly to this post. Based on the conversation so far, I wonder if our opinions are closer than we both initially thought. If I understand correctly, we both believe it is important to fund high performing organizations (including output producing organizations, which can also manage performance) AND the organizations that are on their way to becoming high performing. 

In my opinion, however, it is critical to ensure that ALL organizations become high performing (and, as mentioned above, I believe output programs that provide food and shelter in the short term can also be high performing by managing the quality of their services). If organizations struggle to become high performing, we should help them get there. If organizations refuse to acknowledge the need to manage performance in order to ensure that clients actually benefit – and prefer to stick their heads in the sand, pleading ignorance about whether clients truly benefit because it is “too hard” to measure it – I believe they should no longer be in business. 

I believe advocating for “diversity” in the sense of allowing poorly operated programs that have no intention of improving quality to continue their “work” is simply irresponsible. How can we justify the poor life prospects of teen mothers and their children receiving services from an ineffective program when they could have received services from one that works? Even worse, how can we justify that we allow such ineffective services to continue because we didn’t insist on performance management and consequently didn’t even know they were ineffective in the first place?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We’ve had this conversation, Laura, in the comment section of several other blogs (Wings for Kids, Tactical Philanthropy, Hildy Gottlieb’s blog), but I thought I’d also respond directly to this post. Based on the conversation so far, I wonder if our opinions are closer than we both initially thought. If I understand correctly, we both believe it is important to fund high performing organizations (including output producing organizations, which can also manage performance) AND the organizations that are on their way to becoming high performing. </p>
<p>In my opinion, however, it is critical to ensure that ALL organizations become high performing (and, as mentioned above, I believe output programs that provide food and shelter in the short term can also be high performing by managing the quality of their services). If organizations struggle to become high performing, we should help them get there. If organizations refuse to acknowledge the need to manage performance in order to ensure that clients actually benefit – and prefer to stick their heads in the sand, pleading ignorance about whether clients truly benefit because it is “too hard” to measure it – I believe they should no longer be in business. </p>
<p>I believe advocating for “diversity” in the sense of allowing poorly operated programs that have no intention of improving quality to continue their “work” is simply irresponsible. How can we justify the poor life prospects of teen mothers and their children receiving services from an ineffective program when they could have received services from one that works? Even worse, how can we justify that we allow such ineffective services to continue because we didn’t insist on performance management and consequently didn’t even know they were ineffective in the first place?</p>
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		<title>By: Nonprofit Local Admin</title>
		<link>http://www.thirdsectorconnector.com/blog/2009/10/18/do-you-know-how-to-fix-the-nonprofit-sector/comment-page-1/#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>Nonprofit Local Admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The dialogue continues on this topic, with Laura Deaton, our Co-Founder, still weighing in.  http://tinyurl.com/yjjof82</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The dialogue continues on this topic, with Laura Deaton, our Co-Founder, still weighing in.  <a href="http://tinyurl.com/yjjof82" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yjjof82</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nonprofit Local Admin</title>
		<link>http://www.thirdsectorconnector.com/blog/2009/10/18/do-you-know-how-to-fix-the-nonprofit-sector/comment-page-1/#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>Nonprofit Local Admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another thoughtful blog post on this issue by Saabira Chaudhuri at livemint.com (which also references Laura and Mark&#039;s posts).  Thank you! http://tinyurl.com/yj8rt7t</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thoughtful blog post on this issue by Saabira Chaudhuri at livemint.com (which also references Laura and Mark&#8217;s posts).  Thank you! <a href="http://tinyurl.com/yj8rt7t" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yj8rt7t</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nonprofit Local Admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nonprofit Local Admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a quick update that we made the blog roundup at the Chronicle of Philanthropy yesterday! &lt;strong&gt;http://tinyurl.com/yhdefhb&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a quick update that we made the blog roundup at the Chronicle of Philanthropy yesterday! <strong><a href="http://tinyurl.com/yhdefhb" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yhdefhb</a></strong></p>
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